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RE: Saeghe I/II. Azaraksh. Kowsar. Domestic F-5 E/F upgrades 2
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Saeghe I/II. Azaraksh. Kowsar. Domestic F-5 E/F upgrades Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force
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To David Cenciotti, 

Starting a production line of a fighter jet, is a gaint step for Iran. It does not matter whether they have tested the advanced avionic and the new radar on  an old F-5F tiger or on newly built Kowsar fighter. The big achievement here is starting the production line. 

I red an article for a couple of years ago in Jangavaran predicting Iran will never be able soon to build a fighter jet, due to lack of metallurgy know-how and technology. Kowsar is a proof that this is not the case.

Promising only to deliver 15 fighter jes in three years, also knowing that they still has to import 25% of the parts indicates that still long way ahead of Iran, but nevertheless starting the production line is a giant step.

Jumping into Ghaher 313 discussion and mix the two topics  and adding  humiliating remarks will not cast shadow on this huge achievement.


(08-22-2018, 01:03 AM)Parsi Pride Wrote: According to the aviationist, the real Kosar was not ready today

ran Unveils New Domestic “Fourth-generation” Fighter Jet. But It’s Just An Upgraded F-5F Tiger…
Aug 21 2018 - 0 Comments

By David Cenciotti
Iran claims it’s a new aircraft, but it’s just a +40 years old two-seat F-5….
Iranian media says that a new Iranian fighter jet was exhibited during the National Defense Industry show. Images released by various outlets show President Hassan Rouhani sitting in the cockpit of the new “Kowsar” plane, a “fourth-generation fighter”, with “advanced avionics” and multi-purpose radar.

However, the images and footage released of the “100-percent indigenously made” aircraft clearly show a quite obsolete F-5F Tiger.

Whilst the aircraft identification is easy, Iranian aviation journalist Babak Taghvaee has obtained some details about the aircraft who he has posted on Twitter. In short, the aircraft is a rebuilt F-5F that was equipped with some new digital avionics. For sure nothing comparable to a modern aircraft (like an F/A-18, a Mirage 2000 or more, such as a Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale, etc.)

In fact, the aircraft is more a testbed for something more advanced than a real new jet.

So, the real new aircraft, dubbed “Kowsar” wasn’t ready for today’s presentation, therefore the Iranians brought the F-5F used to test its avionics. Neither the media nor the authorities disclosed this detail..

Iran is not new to such claims. You will probably remember the famous Qaher F-313 stealth fighter jet, an aircraft that was nothing more than a poorly designed mock-up that would never fly unless it was extensively modified and heavily improved: the cockpit was basic for any modern plane, the air intakes appeared to be too small, the engine section lacked any kind of nozzle meaning that the engine would probably melt the aircraft’s back-end. Above all, the aircraft was way too small to such an extent its cockpit could not fit a normal-sized human being.

Footage and photographs showing a new prototype (marked “08”) of the Qaher F-313 emerged last year as Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani participated  in an exhibition: the “upgraded version” of the “faux stealth fighter” could be observed performing some taxi tests. Nothing serious in spite what Iranian Aerospace companies have been able to achieve in the past. Here’s what this Author wrote commenting the F-313 “farce”:

Iranian engineers have been able of some impressive achievements in spite of the embargo imposed after the 1979 Revolution: for instance, the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) remains the world’s only operator of the F-14 Tomcat, that Tehran continues to maintain airworthy and enhanced with some domestic avionics upgrades and weapons.

Moreover, Iran is pretty advanced in terms of production and export of drones: Iranian UAVs (Unmanned Aerial Vehicles) are quite popular in the Middle East, where some of them have been extensively used in combat over Syria.

Anyway, as with the F-313, the latest claims about the “new advanced 4th Gen. aircraft” are not based on a real aircraft with real capabilities but appears to be just a product for domestic propaganda.

Iran claims it has produced a new, advanced fighter plane. But the photographs show an F-5F. (All images credit: Tasnim News


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