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Which Nation Will Be The 4th To Join the Elite Club of Manned Spacefaring Nations?
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Which Nation Will Be The  4th To Join the Elite Club of Manned Spacefaring Nations?

If successful, it will join the U.S.S.R., the U.S. and China in the elite club of countries to achieve homegrown human spaceflight.

Please support your claim with substantiated evidence, no low IQ self-satisfactory wishful thinking.



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Claims for North Korea


Recently, North Korean official media have published an article relating the exploits of the legendary eighth-century great traveler, the Buddhist monk Hyecho from the Silla Kingdom of Korea.
The first ever Korean to have travel from Korea to Persia.


Quote:Hyecho and the «Memoir of the pilgrimage to the five kingdoms of India»

주체107(2018)년 12월 1일

Hyecho (704–787), 慧超, Sanskrit: Prajñāvikrama; pinyin: Hui Chao, was a Buddhist monk from Silla, one of the Three Kingdoms of Korea.

Hyecho studied esoteric Buddhism in Tang China, initially under Śubhakarasiṃha and then under the famous Indian monk Vajrabodhi who praised Hyecho as "one of six living persons who were well-trained in the five sections of the Buddhist canon."

On the advice of his Indian teachers in China, he set out for India in 723 to acquaint himself with the language and culture of the land of the Buddha.

During his journey to India, Hyecho wrote a travelogue in Chinese named Wang ocheonchukguk jeon (hanja: 往五天竺國傳) which means, "Memoir of the pilgrimage to the five kingdoms of India."

It is the first known overseas travelogue written in Chinese by a Korean and contains information about the political, cultural and economic customs of India and central Asia at that time. The five Indian kingdoms in the work's title refer to West, East, North, South and Central India. This scroll is estimated as the first East Asian travelogue to the Islamic world.

He went to the coastal countries and crossed Persia (Iran) to reach the region known as the Eastern Empire, before returning to China in the year 727.

Hyecho traveled most of his journey by road for several years, traveling a distance of about 10,000 km, recording in details his experiences.

It took Hyecho approximately four years to complete his journey. The travelogue contains much information on local diet, languages, climate, cultures, and political situations.

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1. Hyejo's voyage, the first Korean in history to discover Persia.


http://www.dprktoday.com/index.php?type=2&no=35859


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2. Flashforward: Pyongyang No. 1 Senior-middle School, October 2017.

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3. Flashforward: Pyongyang Munsu water Park, June 2017.

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4. Official and ambitious goal of North Korea's space program, the exploitation of the lunar rare earths reserve.

Feasibility for North Korea

A suborbital manned flight may be attempted within six months from any civilian or military airfield, as the new civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 intercontinental ballistic missile allows North Korea's NADA space agency, to conduct space launches without the need of any supporting space center, least from Sohae SLC currently under reconstruction.

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5. Hwasong-15 ICBM.

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6. Mobile civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM.

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7. North Korean Hwasong-15 reentry vehicle, U.S. Titan 2 Mk.6 reentry vehicle and Chinese FSW recoverable capsule.

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8. North Korean Hwasong-15 reentry vehicle.

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9. Irano-North Korean E1 suborbital space capsule: on the left, new model from 2016, on the right, old exhibition mockup from 2015.

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10. New model of the Irano-North Korean E1 suborbital space capsule from 2016.

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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


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Definitely not Turkey or Iran. Turkey has no space programme yet and Iran has no funding and virtually no progress. The 7 year plan for Iran is to put a comms sat into GEO, no manned missions are possible currently.

NK has the theoretical capability but India has shown a capability in practice far beyond anything the others have shown, so the obvious choice is India.
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Upcoming space launch...

By starting with an orbital launch attempt in 2022, only to avoid contempt in face of China's Shenzhou-5 outstanding achievement, and moreover with a multi-seaters mission, India has set the bar too high, thus leaving the fourth place as a spacefaring nation to North Korea! The DPRK's space agency NADA that is simply attempting a suborbital launch with a single astronaut might succeed within one year!

Indeed, neither the liquid propellant rocket needed to further test-launch the high altitude abort system of the Gaganyaan capsule nor the Indian orbital space launch vehicle are even built. On the countrary, the North Korean suborbital launcher has already been produced, only awaiting the order of Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un to be launched with a dummy! Just another hint leaked on February 6th, 2019, in the North Korean media, on the occasion of the North Korean New Year!

No need to add that India will only end up at the sixth place at best, even behind Iran's ISA, that uses the same technologies and hardwares as NADA, the Hwasong-15 SLV might in this case be replaced with a Safir-1 SLV.

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1.   伊朗使者一号丁与印度载人飞船亚轨道合格性测试运载火箭相比。
Throttleable and Restartable Engine for Test Vehicle: ISRO's Qualification of Crew Escape System, only at the stage of PPT!


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2. Artistic representation of the North Korean Unha launchers family, 2019.
NADA's Hardware ready suborbital launch vehicle.


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3. The fourth place for NADA.

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4. The fifth place for ISA.

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5. Wei Qinru (PRC), PANG UNSIM (DPRK), Prateek YADAV IMM IGM (INDIA), respectively first, second anf third at the World Memory Championships 2018.


Analysis: Hint on the upcoming space launch

Following a previous picture revealing a Hwasong-15 SLV painted on a kid's kite, the latest image taken on 6 February 2019, during the North Korean New Year, shows another kite in the hand of a children, with a Unha-9 SLV, and not flying in the sky.
Only this time, the children are all jumping toward the sky, unmistakable reference to a manned spaceflight! Indeed, this only echoes a some ~30 years old painting of an astronaut rising to the sky, in the Samjiyon children's palace.

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6. January 1st 2019, New Year's Day, two flying kites with the new civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, have figured prominently! Uploaded on January 2, 2019

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7. New representaion of a Unha-9 SLV painted on a kid's kite, on 6 February 2019, during the North Korean New Year.

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8. Astronaut rising to the sky, in a painting in Samjiyon children's palace, North Korea. Taken on May 5, 2010

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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


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K210, post: 11357579, member: 180704 Wrote:When is targeted launch date? KJU seems to have forgotten his country has a space program. No SLV launch since February 2016!

Commentary

From official North Korean sources, back in 2012, it was disclosed that the manned Unha-X launcher would have a mass of 400 tonnes.

Kwangmyongsong SLV (the 2016 Unha-4) can send a 1'000 kg payload to a 500 km LEO. The three stages Unha-9 SLV can send a 2 tonnes payload to a 500 km LEO.

With only 4 sets of 80 tonnes force Paektusan-1 engines, totalling a liftoff thrust of 320 tf, the two stages Unha-IX-E2 with a mass of 200 tonnes could only send a single seater E2 (Mallima-1B in Korean) manned capsule with a mass under two tonnes (~1'800kg) at some 250 km LEO altitude.

Note: E1 is the only known Persian designation for the suborbital one seater manned capsule. I called it Mallima-1A for more clarity. While the orbital version is called by Me "E2" or Mallima-1B, by analogy with the U.S.' Mercury-Redstone and Mercury-Atlas concept. Also following this logic, the Redstone would be replaced with a Safir-1D SLV in Iran and a Hwasong-15 SLV in North Korea for the suborbital mission.

With 4 additional strap-on boosters, increasing the liftoff thrust to 8x 80 tonnes force or 640 tonnes force, the 400 tonnes manned Unha-X-F1 can place a dual/three seaters F1 (Mallima-2 in Korean) spacecraft at some 350 km LEO.

Therefore the very ambitious North Korean space conquest plan started in 2017, to perform a spacewalk by 2022 will need at least 6 launches to ensure the reliability of the Unha-9 as a man-rated SLV.
  • Two Observation satellites
  • Two Communications satellites
  • One Lunar orbiter
  • One GEO satellite
Notice the lunar orbiter will precede the GEO satellite as explained below:

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1. Lunar gravity assist used to place North Korea's satellite into the GEO belt.


The suborbital part is only a speculation based on the Iranian plan. If it exist, then it should be conducted in parallel, as the launcher is not the Unha, sharing in common only the spacecapsule and the 10 astronauts selection.

India can never catch up with North Korea's 2022 spacewalk, as ISRO has not even considered this possibility, and time is running out.

As a last resort, only Modi Ji performing his famous Yogic Earth Rotation could snatch the 4th space superpower place from North Korea! [Image: 1618d2c18e99e165dbef15e697fd6d33229a2a54.gif]

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Quote:Han Ho Seok's Progressive Discourse (241)

Han Ho Seok | [email protected]

Approval 2012.12.31 10:41:53

The fact that his remarks on the launch of manned spacewalk is not an exaggeration and can be seen from the scale of the facilities of the West Sea [Sohae] Satellites Launch Center. According to this reporter, the launch pad of the West Sea [Sohae] Satellites LC was designed to launch a 400 - ton ultra - large carrier rocket. In fact, the height of the launcher is more than 50m. He described it as a super large carrier rocket, but if it is a 400 ton class rocket, it is not a carrier rocket that carries satellites, but a carrier rocket that carries a manned spacecraft.

On April 12, 1961, the mass of the Soviet manned spacecraft Vostok 1, which flew to space with the first human Yuri Gagarin (1934-1968), was 5.9 t. And the two-stage carrier rocket of the Voskhod spacecraft that performed the first manned spacewalk was 30.84 meters long, the first stage diameter was 2.99 meters, and the mass 298.4 tons. This means that the Soviet Union developed a powerful rocket with a total mass of 304.3 tons, that could launched a manned spacecraft.

Kim Jong Un seems to include a plan to launch a manned spacewalk as well as a lunar exploration satellite in the chairman's first plan for space conquest. The model of the Unha-9 built next to the stage of the 2012.12.21 ballroom is not rocket model for manned space flight. Chairman Kim Jong Un will carry out a step-by-step implementation of the space conquest plan to launch a manned spacewalk on the new type of carrier rocket Unha-10, which is totally different from the Unha-9 model. It is to be realized in the future. In the 10 years period from 2012 to 2022.

Reference
http://www.tongilnews.com/news/articleVi...xno=101028
http://web.archive.org/web/2019091901155...xno=101028
http://archive.fo/xS7EC


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2. The Unha-IXE2 launcher with the single seater capsule and the first North Korean spacewalk by 2022.

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3. The Unha-X launcher with the dual/three seaters spacecraft.

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4. Modi Ji Rotating The Earth, the only way to perform the first Indian spacewalk before North Korea by 2022!



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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


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AUz, post: 11389654, member: 32092 Wrote:@SOHEIL What happened to Iran's space program?

Simorgh has been a failure again and again, and even latest Safir launch was a failure. No new systems, no improvement of technologies, nothing.

At one point it was looking promising for Iran. What happened?

Same goes for nuclear and missile programs of Islamic Republic. Why??

Any chance we would see something new soon from Iran?


There is no mistake. Iranian people lack of any interest for expensive space conquest, nuclear power, as clearly demonstrated by the democratic vote that lead to the political change, and the reformists replacing the principlists. When economy is the main worry for the majority.

This is also cultural, aerospace is too new for the Iranian masses. Only the technological elite of the nation like Ahmadinejad and also India's Abdul Kalam who was an aerospace scientist, can prioritize the aerospace development.

Rouhani is science illiterate, like the majority of its voters.

As we live in a world where decisions are taken at a higher level than governments, the Matrix sees several turn in advance and makes no mistake!

To further substantiate the core concept of the Matrix, and the Green light, please read my full-length commentary.

Fortunately, Iran has North Korea as teammate, therefore both will succeed, as coded in the Matrix.


Prerequisites For A Manned Suborbital Flight V1.0

First posted 26 April 2019; Updated 16 August 2019

Table of Contents

1. Introduction
2. Suborbital Focus
3. The Green Light
4. Western Fallacious Claims Flayed
5. Space-time Continuum Warping
6. Conclusion

1. Introduction

In the 21th century, sending a man into space might seems easily feasible by any moderately industrialized nation.

Proof that the minimal technologies required for such a spaceflight are already widely accessible in today's internet information era, smaller private teams are spawning everywhere, like IL Aerospace Technologies from Israel!

Quote: March/April 2004

IL Aerospace Technologies (ILAT) is based in Zichron Ya'akov, Israel, and is led by Dov Chartarifsky. Recently it has unveiled its new X Prize competition vehicle design now called "Negev" (formerly named Negev-5). Aside from the name, the vehicle's configuration has gone through several design iterations in the last few months. These modifications originated from a fresh set of innovative concepts derived from ILAT's recently formed technical team and advisory committee.

The Negev will be launched from ground level using a helium balloon as a first stage. This unconventional approach allows the vehicle to hitchhike a free ride to its intended rocket launch altitude of 10 Km (32,808 feet) above sea level, and overcome most of the atmospheric drag while saving precious fuel. This high-altitude launch concept makes it possible to design a smaller, lighter, simpler, and more efficient vehicle, hence satisfying the criterion for practical low-cost space access.

Once the altitude for rocket ignition is reached, the vehicle will be detached from the balloon initiating the staging process. The vehicle will drop for 3 to 5 seconds before the solid rocket motor ignites, creating a negative velocity of 50m/s. At the same time, the balloon will immediately sense the sudden ballast change and spring upwards, separating itself away from the vehicle to a safe distance. The on-board computer will control the firing of the 77.8 kN (17,500 lbf) solid rocket motor. The burn will last about 96 seconds at around 78% thrust, accelerating the vehicle to Mach 3.54 (1165.5 m/s). The altitude at burnout will be 49.6 Km (162,730 ft), while the G-force applied to the passengers will reach a maximum of 4.3 prior to burnout. After engine cut-off, the vehicle will continue to cruise pass the 100 Km (328,084 ft) mark where the crew will begin to experience weightlessness conditions for about 4 minutes. At approximately 120 Km (393,701 ft), all forward inertia will be depleted and the vehicle will start to free-fall back to earth.

The attitude of the vehicle will remain the identical to the one during the ascent phase. At an altitude higher than 70 Km (229,659 ft), the nose sphere will detach from the capsule but will remain connected by a cable, thus serving as a stabilizing element during the reentry phase. The maximum deceleration force will peek at ~5.81 G's at 23.6 Km (77,428 ft) into the decent. At an altitude of 5 Km (16,404 ft), at a velocity of around 85m/sec (190 mph), the parachute sequence will start by pyrotechnically deploying both drogue and main chutes sequentially. This altitude is high enough to allow redundant sequences in case of primary system failure. With the main chute fully open, the vehicle will slow down to a mere 7 m/sec before splashing down to the sea.

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https://archive.is/scOiS/78bf6afb2a4f607...58bef2.gif ; http://archive.is/scOiS ; http://www.lunar.org/docs/LUNARclips/v11...rize.shtml ; http://www.lunar.org/docs/LUNARclips/v11...evLogo.gif
1. IL Aerospace Technologies's X Prize competition vehicle Negev Logo

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http://web.archive.org/web/2004072200480...II_ezr.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2005030512361.../ilat.net/
2. Negev suborbital space mission specifications. As accessed in 2005.

http://www.lunar.org/docs/LUNARclips/v11...rize.shtml
http://archive.is/scOiS

2. Suborbital Focus

And indeed both the U.S.A., Iran and North Korea have chosen the same path in their space development focus tree, to attempt a suborbital spaceflight first before any manned orbital mission.

Both use a one seater space capsule atop a liquid propellant ballistic missile: U.S. Redstone, Iranian Safir-1D, North Korean Hwasong-15.

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http://web.archive.org/web/2019081601073...dQr5l3.jpg ; https://archive.fo/PKArh/2ef7fdb5343adda...fb9f45.jpg ; https://i.imgur.com/ydQr5l3.jpg
3. U.S. Redstone, Iranian Safir-1D, North Korean Hwasong-15.

Therefore the very similar size for both the missiles and capsules. Notice that North Korea is benefiting from the best hardware available: dual engines for double redundancy, thus double reliability and heightened safety level, and also a much voluminous and more powerful (thrust) launcher.

3. The Green Light

This begs the question, what on earth is hindering the most economically and technologically advanced nations, to send a man into space indigenously?

Japan that was nearly hardware-ready by 1945 for starting waves of near-space military manned flights, India that possesses various type of ballistic missile including ICBMs, and many other military powerhouses of the G7 seem simply to lack the Green Light.

4. Western Fallacious Claims

Due to the level of self-propaganda in the Western education and media, European people don't even consider their claims as illegitimate. Thus, what was the real technological aerospace status of the West before WWII?

Below, the proof that the West's first aerospace efforts were only blunt plagiarism of Chinese origin inventions, and for this very reason, uncredited by the Westerners.

Quote:The twelve prototypes of Louis Blériot

Starting from February 1907, Blériot had designed another airplane, made in the workshop of Neuilly. Like the type V, the Blériot VI includes a fuselage of square section stretched by cloth-like cord, with wings of varnished paper

Les douze prototypes de Louis Blériot, Gérard HARTMANN, p8
https://www.hydroretro.net/etudegh/12protosbleriot.pdf

Varnished paper is a technology so Chinese, that the French had to recruit Annamese experts from their French Indochina colony, to produce their airplanes during the WWI ! [Image: rolling%20on%20the%20floor.gif]

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http://web.archive.org/web/2019081601062...Kpj4nc.jpg ; https://archive.fo/RcCcH/cf0372947936a91...bd9765.jpg ; https://i.imgur.com/BKpj4nc.jpg ; https://fresques.ina.fr/jalons/fiche-med...vions.html
4. Annamese experts at work in a French aircraft factory. The Annamites (so-called inhabitants of Annam in Indochina), experts in the use of lacquer and considered the most skillful, were mainly employed in aircraft construction.

5. Space-time Continuum Warping

For North Korea securing the 4th place as a manned space superpower, one needs to be endowed with Space-time Continuum Warping special capabilities to clarify.

Kim Jong Il was one of these Great Person. And this Space-time Continuum Warping special ability gives us the answer.

By voyaging back in time to the 15th century Choson Dynasty of Korea, and then to 1590, the first ever recorded manned rocket propelled flight of Jung Pyung Gu (정평구, 鄭平九)(1566-1624), gives the priority of the Green Light to the Korean nation.

Although the concept was reverse engineered from the Chinese Wan Hu's (万虎) rocket-propelled manned winged Flying Vehicle, of 1465 AD, Wan Hu's maiden flight ended in failure, while Jung Pyung Gu succeeded with a 12 km flight.

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http://web.archive.org/web/2019081601051...t_bomb.gif ; https://archive.fo/VFZjP/07641aae55a32bc...9b2bb2.gif ; http://www.tstss.edu.hk/it/flash_samples...t_bomb.gif ; http://www.tstss.edu.hk/it/flash_samples...t_bomb.htm
▲ 5. Wan Hu's (万虎) rocket propelled manned winged Flying Vehicle:
Most likely a rocket plane based on an upscaled, manned version of the world's first military winged rocket, the Shenhuo Feiya (神火飞鸦: Divine fire flying crow) ~1403 AD, powered by 4 external solid fuel strap-on boosters, the fuselage containing explosive charge, with a powered and gliding total range of 300 meters  (http://baike.baidu.com/item/神火飞鸦/79429)


6. Conclusion

This vision, absolutely inaccessible and unreal for the common of mortals, shows both the past, four centuries ago, the present and also the near future.

In the journey of every nation there are moments that bring utmost pride and have a historic impact on generations to follow. One such moment is the year 1590.

Choson Korea had successfully tested a manned rocket propelled flying vehicle. Thus unlocking the Green Light for the Fourth Place as a manned space superpower in the 21st century!

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https://i.imgur.com/iCiDNMb.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019081601001...CiDNMb.jpg ; https://archive.fo/pEc2G/c275fa77091dc09...35e44c.jpg
6. Unlocking the Green Light: Mankind first ever manned rocket propelled flight by Jung Pyung Gu (정평구, 鄭平九) in 1590, and all the following manned Hwasong-15E1, Unha-IXE2, Unha-XF1, Unha-XXVII.

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https://i.imgur.com/hoOMxvA.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019081601022...oOMxvA.jpg ; https://archive.fo/yJq4z/80198576a45aff3...f93f97.jpg
7.  Unlocking the Green Light: Mankind first ever manned rocket propelled flight by Jung Pyung Gu (정평구, 鄭平九) in 1590, and all the following manned Hwasong-15E1, Unha-IXE2, Unha-XF1, Unha-XXVII.

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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


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Galactic Penguin SST, post: 10592204, member: 186587 Wrote:Sure that all the readers should concur with your statement, as the DPRK's technological achievements are really amazing. North Korea is trully Asia.
North Korea makes us all proud to be Asians. Fingers crossed and God speed, here in China, none can wait until 2020, when the first North Korean astronaut would be launched into space aboard an indigeneously made launcher!
Here a brief sneak peek at the DPRK's outstanding past and future space milestones!

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https://archive.is/6fdH9/ebf0cc2229ee5c3...1fc525.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100919241...tZsOMg.jpg ; https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/dprk-...e99331ab3b
1. DPRK Strategic Focus Tree, as of 2018.

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Galactic Penguin SST, post: 11097701, member: 186587 Wrote:Commentary

Confirmed, from now on, North Korea can send a man into space into a suborbital flight any time it wants!

An unknown new space launcher suitable to launch a single astronaut into a suborbital spaceflight and maybe even into LEO, and based on a Hwasong-15 ICBM seems to have been revealed on the occasion of the 70th Arirang Mass Games, called The Glorious Country, held in September 2018. The depiction an astronaut along a manned spacecraft stacked on a rocket stage powered by two engines and extended by a skirt, thus similar to the Hwasong-15 configuration, has been displayed with a new civilian mosltly white paint, instead of the mostly black military paint.

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https://archive.fo/P8kcF/9db34ff7caaeca6...a3ec25.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100919320...OuD0B2.jpg
2. Picture from a video published on Sep 25, 2018, of the 70th Arirang Mass Games, called The Glorious Country, taken at T=0:54:07.



youtube.com/watch?v=1F42BzUHsnQ
3. Video published on Sep 25, 2018, of the 70th Arirang Mass Games, called The Glorious Country.

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https://archive.fo/6brNx/c039c66ac676744...d46248.jpg ; https://archive.fo/6brNx/e87bf2aa0b2d22e...95/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100420324...lNwBlw.jpg ; https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Djb_NnzV4AEcLEO.jpg ; https://twitter.com/isnjh/status/1024286...61?lang=fa
4. Speculative artistic rendering of the civilian Hwasong-15 TEL launched rocket. 6:32 AM - 31 Jul 2018.

See also:
• [단독] “북한 새 인공위성, 이동식 발사대로 조만간 발사 계획”; 2017.12.26; https://news.joins.com/article/22233031

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Galactic Penguin SST, post: 11122860, member: 186587 Wrote:Confirmation of the existence of a civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, first disclosed on the occasion of the 70th Arirang Mass Games, called The Glorious Country, held in September 2018.
This second time disclosure, has taken place on the occasion of the Celebrations of New Year's Day on January 1st 2019, in Pyongyang, seemingly at the Kim Il Sun Square.
In a modus operandi that now seems familiar to the foreign GEOINT/OSINT analysts, pictures of young children playing with kites have been used to display the drawing of some new space launchers.
Last year in the same place, a future Unha (Unha-9?) space launcher painted on a kid's kite during the Day of The Shining Star 2018 on 16 February 2018, and Korean New Year 2018 holiday period, at Kim Il Sun Square, Pyongyang, was presented.
This January 1st 2019, New Year's Day, two flying kites with the new civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, have figured prominently!

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https://archive.fo/jLVmW/b44ed30d7b81289...897393.jpg ; https://archive.fo/jLVmW/ca48c892b8c369d...13/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100519564...8046_b.jpg ; https://www.flickr.com/photos/dprktoday/32689838498/ ; Celebrating New Year's Day January 1 in various places -_3
5. January 1st 2019, New Year's Day, two flying kites with the new civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, have figured prominently! Uploaded on January 2, 2019

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https://archive.fo/Nygm6/c730d73624c3499...3e8a41.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100919542...966c_b.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100919542...966c_b.jpg ; https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7836/32689...966c_b.jpg ; https://www.flickr.com/photos/dprktoday/32689838748/ ; Celebrating New Year's Day January 1 in various places -_2
6. January 1st 2019, New Year's Day, two flying kites with the new civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, have figured prominently! Uploaded on January 2, 2019


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Galactic Penguin SST, post: 11191276, member: 186587 Wrote:Upcoming Manned Suborbital Mobile Launcher: Third Hint

Confirmation of the existence of a civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, first disclosed on the occasion of the 70th Arirang Mass Games, called The Glorious Country, held in September 2018.

The second time disclosure, has taken place on the occasion of the Celebrations of New Year's Day on January 1st 2019, in Pyongyang, seemingly at the Kim Il Sun Square.

In a modus operandi that now seems familiar to the foreign GEOINT/OSINT analysts, pictures of young children playing with kites have been used to display the drawing of some new space launchers.

Last year in the same place, a future Unha (Unha-9?) space launcher painted on a kid's kite during the Day of The Shining Star 2018 on 16 February 2018, and Korean New Year 2018 holiday period, at Kim Il Sun Square, Pyongyan, was presented.

This January 1st 2019, New Year's Day, two flying kites with the new civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, have figured prominently!

[Image: b44ed30d7b81289c8d5a7c48d8f3896f77897393.jpg]
https://archive.fo/jLVmW/b44ed30d7b81289...897393.jpg ; https://archive.fo/jLVmW/ca48c892b8c369d...13/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100519564...8046_b.jpg ; https://www.flickr.com/photos/dprktoday/32689838498/ ; Celebrating New Year's Day January 1 in various places -_3
7. January 1st 2019, New Year's Day, two flying kites with the new civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, have figured prominently! Uploaded on January 2, 2019

[Image: c730d73624c34999880f94e8cdd20579253e8a41.jpg]
https://archive.fo/Nygm6/c730d73624c3499...3e8a41.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100919542...966c_b.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100919542...966c_b.jpg ; https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7836/32689...966c_b.jpg ; https://www.flickr.com/photos/dprktoday/32689838748/ ; Celebrating New Year's Day January 1 in various places -_2
8. January 1st 2019, New Year's Day, two flying kites with the new civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, have figured prominently! Uploaded on January 2, 2019

The third occurrence has just taken place on the occasion of the Korean holiday (元宵節) celebrated on the fifteenth day of the first month in the lunisolar Chinese calendar on February 19, 2019.
Again children have been photographed with the Hwasong-15 SLV drawn on a flying kite.

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https://archive.fo/dsynI/5887648b311deec...3fdbd1.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100920070...efd0_b.jpg ; https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7853/47151...efd0_b.jpg ; Confirming the bright future of socialist motherland, 사회주의조국의 휘황한 미래를 확신하며 맞이한 정월대보름명절_5 ; Uploaded on February 20, 2019 ; https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7827/47151...7e45_b.jpg ; http://www.dprktoday.com/content/photo/2...5228-1.jpg ; http://www.dprktoday.com/content/photo/2...5228-5.jpg ; https://www.flickr.com/photos/dprktoday/47151055221/
9. February 19, 2019, Korean holiday (元宵節), a flying kite with the new civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, have figured prominently for the second time of the year!  Uploaded on February 20, 2019. 

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https://archive.fo/z6nyC/b01d198ce86a454...2acef2.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100920104...2503d9eb8c ; https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/astro...2503d9eb8c ; https://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image...-shirt.jpg ; https://www.spreadshirt.com/astronaut+mo...lor=000000
10. Flashforward from Semnan

Upcoming Manned Suborbital Launch: Fourth Hint

Following the first disclosure on the occasion of the 70th Arirang Mass Games, called The Glorious Country, held in September 2018, of a civilian space launcher based on the Hwasong-15 ICBM, this year, the grand mass gymnastics and artistic performance "The Land of the People' being staged at May Day Stadium on the picturesque "Rungna Island in Pyongyang, goes even one step further!

The extravaganza consisting of several acts and scenes, features a special performance spectacularly enacting the first ever spaceflight of a North Korean "rocketman", literally!

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https://archive.is/QzzkU/4b32b50e3e9f1bd...5d9ece.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/save/_embed/https...AePWCY.jpg
11. Pyongyang Grand Mass Gymnastics and Artistic Performance (2019) 'Land of the People'. Poster with an illustration emphasising obviously a nightly space launch.

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https://archive.fo/dbYAz/2485afa0359b130...47ae6a.gif ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019071623232...WU7y0u.gif
12. Pyongyang Grand Mass Gymnastics and Artistic Performance (2019) 'Land of the People'. Rocketman taking off with a booster attached on its feet.


https://youtu.be/kJ64uXGVRh4?t=59 ; youtu.be/GPhB3jXQERs?t=59
13. Pyongyang Grand Mass Gymnastics and Artistic Performance (2019) 'Land of the People'. Video of Rocketman taking off with a booster attached on its feet at T=59s.

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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


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Galactic Penguin SST, post: 10284940, member: 186587 Wrote:Spurred on by uproar over satellites, Iran relaunches manned space program

Sep 15, 2017

TEHRAN – Iran’s on-off space program has received a boost from Washington’s irritation at a recent satellite launch by the middle eastern nation, with Tehran dusting off plans for a manned mission, perhaps with Moscow’s assistance.

Ten skilled pilots are currently undergoing difficult and intensive training so that two of them … can be selected for the space launch,” the head of the science ministry’s aerospace research center, Fathollah Omi, told the state broadcaster last week.

http://web.archive.org/web/2019101018565...atellites/
http://archive.is/rIojH

Official: Iran to Send Astronaut Robot, Human to Space

Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:6

TEHRAN (FNA)- Head of Iran's Aerospace Research Center Fathollah Ommi announced the country's plans to send an astronaut robot to space before sending a human being in the next 8 years.

"The project to send a man to orbit should be implemented by 2025 and before that we will have a project to send human beings to suborbital Earth," Ommi said on Monday.

He also said that Iranian experts will likely send an astronaut robot along with a bio-capsule before a manned mission.

http://web.archive.org/web/2017112818343...0620001596
http://archive.fo/fkVY0

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https://archive.fo/WHvz9/141920dbcc404fd...312809.png ; https://archive.fo/WHvz9/764b0c3027d7c37...81/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019101019045...4e3c92ff09 ; https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/vlcsn...4e3c92ff09 ; youtube.com/watch?v=CxBj71x2wtE
1. At T=40:02 a North Korean astronaut inside a spacecraft called Milaeho (미래호, 未來號: future, pending), from a New Year 2018 show. Video published on Jan 1, 2018

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https://archive.fo/SEVwN/218447558730ee9...f17bf1.jpg ; https://archive.fo/SEVwN/fbfbf6f9281d8ff...63/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/2018102915232...d810_b.jpg ; https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4639/38564...d810_b.jpg ; https://www.flickr.com/photos/dprktoday/38564306055/ ; https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/38564...0f04ca8e46
2. 10 North Korean astronauts as depicted in a New Year 2018 show

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https://archive.fo/MY3Ws/eb4980ae9bde817...05db1d.png ; https://archive.fo/MY3Ws/971cd8bc079f3cf...fe/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019071822304...0f04ca8e46 ; https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/vlcsn...0f04ca8e46 ; Iran summary of past satellite & space launches ایران گذشته از پرتاب ماهواره ها به فضا ; youtube.com/watch?v=DnTao3GSfUA
3. CGI of Iranian asronaut by 2020 in a IRIBNEWS TV footage.
Notice the many similarities with the North Korean spacesuit: from the head part, torso, flag location and size, etc. Video published on Feb 10, 2018


Commentary

Both Iran and North Korea have disclosed their intention to send a man into space by 2021.
As stated by Iran, 10 pilots have already been pre-selected by 2017, and two of them will be the final asronauts.
Taking into account that two years in average are required to train an astronaut, the selection process for North Korea should have started, as hinted by the 2018 New Year show.
In addition the 10 astronauts of the show corroborates the number of 10 Iranian pilots. Therefore one should assume that North Korea is also currently training 10 pilots.

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North Korea's first 10 astronauts selection: Second Hint

Following the first depiction of 10 North Korean astronauts in a New Year 2018 show, a second occurrence has just confirmed the previous disclosure.

Timely released as Iranian media have restated the plan by Iran to send a man into space.

Quote:Iran Ranks 1st in Mideast in Aerospace Engineering

Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:20

Also, Head of Iran's National Space Center Manouchehr Manteqi announced in October that the country planned to cooperate with Russia in sending men into space for the first time.

"Because sending human being into space needs lots of expenses, and different countries use each other's possibilities, and at present, Russia's possibilities are almost complete, we have decided to do the mission in cooperation with Russia," Manteqi told reporters in Tehran.

http://web.archive.org/web/2019101019185...0404000344
http://archive.fo/FXosR

This new video uploaded on 21 May 2019 features a Chosun Central TV (조선중앙TV) program (2015년 화록: Year 2015 compilation) with 10 acrobats of the National University Arts (국립교예단) dressed in spacesuits, in a performance called "The Call of the Universe (부른다우주는)".

Also notice the ratio of one female astronaut for 9 males, matching the standard practice of China's manned space program.

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https://archive.fo/j2ndI/b60620e1d2ed786...0e0431.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019071820224...SSUwAG.jpg
4. The Call of the Universe 부른다우주는, 2015년 화록 Year 2015 compilation, 조선중앙TV Chosun Central TV, [명랑한 텔레비죤무대] 명랑한 텔레비죤무대, Video Published on May 21, 2019

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https://archive.fo/0b2xr/360a69ac0b7a43f...31f98c.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019071820260...VBxWFE.jpg
5. The Call of the Universe 부른다우주는, 2015년 화록 Year 2015 compilation, 조선중앙TV Chosun Central TV, [명랑한 텔레비죤무대] 명랑한 텔레비죤무대, Video Published on May 21, 2019.
Ten acrobats dressed in spacesuits suggesting a 10 astronauts selection, with one female astronaut.


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https://media.giphy.com/media/dCL3VHIAIg.../giphy.gif ; https://media.giphy.com/media/kBlG4NqSkY.../giphy.gif ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019071820172...6w8.mpFOUR ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019071820172...bS6.mpFOUR
6. The Call of the Universe 부른다우주는, 2015년 화록 Year 2015 compilation, 조선중앙TV Chosun Central TV, [명랑한 텔레비죤무대] 명랑한 텔레비죤무대, Video Published on May 21, 2019


youtube.com/watch?v=lgl_Lp-5-5o?t=836 ; http://dprktoday.com/index.php?type=24&no=19319#pos ; http://dprktoday.com/temp/youtubeplayer....4&no=19319 ; http://dprktoday.com/index.php?type=24&n...ge=1&for=k
7. The Call of the Universe 부른다우주는, 2015년 화록 Year 2015 compilation, 조선중앙TV Chosun Central TV, [명랑한 텔레비죤무대] 명랑한 텔레비죤무대, Video Published on May 21, 2019

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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


#8
Will not happen for Iran in the foreseeable future, the budget of $9m a year can buy 2 failed launches of a university made satellite but not much more. NK has a long way to go but can do it with time because it has more political will. India is the clear front runner.
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Galactic Penguin SST, post: 11403352, member: 186587 Wrote:4. Western Fallacious Claims

Due to the level of self-propaganda in the Western education and media, European people don't even consider their claims as illegitimate. Thus, what was the real technological aerospace status of the West before WWII?

Below, the proof that the West's first aerospace efforts were only blunt plagiarism of Chinese origin inventions, and for this very reason, uncredited by the Westerners.

The twelve prototypes of Louis Blériot

German Plagiarism Exposed

After the French plagiarism, here the German plagiarism exposed.

Weltraumschiff 1 startet... (1937) was a German 1937 science fiction film directed by Anton Kutter.

Spaceship-1 commanded by Commodore Hardt, inventor of the powerful rocket fuel "Neotan-X", takes off horizontally on a large twin-railed ski jump launch sled on the first circumlunar flight of the Moon.

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https://archive.fo/L0tuQ/d95f5b7bda99c80...51c35e.jpg ; https://archive.fo/L0tuQ/77689c9975ff444...3c/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019092813174...00_AL_.jpg ; http://archive.fo/2RiWF ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019092813131...tt0348366/
1. Weltraumschiff 1 startet... (1937) was a German 1937 science fiction film directed by Anton Kutter.

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https://archive.is/s55uJ/9ce35113746e10a...bdc452.jpg ; https://archive.is/s55uJ/e1e0015e66304f8...7b/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019092813100...W1TwHp.jpg ; https://youtu.be/-G-mbmZbLWU?t=797
2. Spaceship-1 commanded by Commodore Hardt, inventor of the powerful rocket fuel "Neotan-X", takes off horizontally on a large twin-railed ski jump launch sled on the first circumlunar flight of the Moon.


https://archive.is/s55uJ/9ce35113746e10a...bdc452.jpg ; https://archive.is/s55uJ/e1e0015e66304f8...7b/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019092813100...W1TwHp.jpg ; youtube.com/watch?v=-G-mbmZbLWU&t=797
3. Spaceship-1 commanded by Commodore Hardt, inventor of the powerful rocket fuel "Neotan-X", takes off horizontally on a large twin-railed ski jump launch sled on the first circumlunar flight of the Moon.


Reference
http://web.archive.org/web/2019092813131...tt0348366/
http://archive.fo/2RiWF

http://web.archive.org/web/2019092813111...orers.html
http://archive.fo/dTncj

http://web.archive.org/web/2019092813400...astic.html
http://archive.fo/w2XkA

Obvious Renaissance Era East Asian Origination

In the journey of every nation there are moments that bring utmost pride and have a historic impact on generations to follow. One such moment is the year 1590.

Choson Korea had successfully tested a manned rocket propelled flying vehicle. Thus unlocking the Green Light for the Fourth Place as a manned space superpower in the 21st century!

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https://i.imgur.com/iCiDNMb.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019081601001...CiDNMb.jpg ; https://archive.fo/pEc2G/c275fa77091dc09...35e44c.jpg
4. Unlocking the Green Light: Mankind first ever manned rocket propelled flight by Jung Pyung Gu (정평구, 鄭平九) in 1590, and all the following manned Hwasong-15E1, Unha-IXE2, Unha-XF1, Unha-XXVII.

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https://i.imgur.com/hoOMxvA.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019081601022...oOMxvA.jpg ; https://archive.fo/yJq4z/80198576a45aff3...f93f97.jpg
5. Unlocking the Green Light: Mankind first ever manned rocket propelled flight by Jung Pyung Gu (정평구, 鄭平九) in 1590, and all the following manned Hwasong-15E1, Unha-IXE2, Unha-XF1, Unha-XXVII.

WWII Era East Asian Exclusive Origination

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http://web.archive.org/web/2019090416402...vpL6Oh.png ; https://archive.fo/fK4Sp/4010a80dbe58e10...f26629.png ; https://archive.fo/fK4Sp/a0da8037c7f0904...df/scr.png ; youtube.com/watch?v=WXMe-4kew_8 ; youtube.com/watch?v=vnZ9ROcM2Rk ; Published on Sep 4, 2019
6. North Korean FUGO schematics. Korean Central Television Children's Film 2019.

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http://web.archive.org/web/2019090416434...eCc4O9.png ; https://archive.fo/7ygAu/4b7380a994625ea...cf3b4e.png ; https://archive.fo/7ygAu/d4276db2232023b...a5/scr.png
7. North Korean FUGO takeoff. Korean Central Television Children's Film 2019.

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http://web.archive.org/web/2019090416450...yUwwGS.png ; https://archive.fo/RiThn/958124793c614d6...469f89.png ; https://archive.fo/RiThn/b4e68aaf4bd1f1c...8f/scr.png
8. North Korean FUGO hovering in outer space. Korean Central Television Children's Film 2019.

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http://web.archive.org/web/2019090416464...pha4ft.png ; https://archive.fo/OB67h/3bd346c42ec843b...7b5ab0.png ; https://archive.fo/OB67h/f8796146508873c...c2/scr.png
9. North Korean spacemen inside the FUGO. Korean Central Television Children's Film 2019.

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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


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Hamartia Antidote, post: 11799634, member: 151235 Wrote:Not sure what you mean by this video.


Thanks for trolling, this only discloses how desperate the europeans are, unable to cheat the mighty sentient Matrix, the way they did fool their own people and the colonized alike over the last 2 centuries.

And indeed, in light of new claims, we have now to further downgrade the european's prospects, from the 7th place to the 8th place at best!

The revised list of manned spacefaring powers, by order of historical milestone and claimed legitimacy, as of October 2019:

1. A.I. cheat: A
2. A.I. cheat: A'
3. China: Wan Hu's (万虎) rocket-propelled manned winged Flying Vehicle maiden flight ended in failure, 1465 AD.
4. Korea: Jung Pyung Gu (정평구, 鄭平九) first recorded manned rocket propelled flight with a 12 km flight, 1590 AD.
5. Turkey: Lagâri Hasan Çelebi successful manned rocket flight, 1633 AD.
6. Japan: world's first manned space program started in 1940. Upcoming large scale attacks with crewed gigantic stratospheric FUGO airships announced on 4th June 1945 AD.
7. India: Mysorean rockets, 18th century AD.
8. First european contender.

Turkey's first suborbital manned spaceflight

Mr. Erdoğan has boasted of Turkey's past achievements in manned rocket flight. Therefore, he might be interested to send a Turkish astronaut into space.

The first space launcher MUFA (Micro Uydu Firlatma Araci: Micro Sat Launcher) consists of solid-stages and with a liquid fuel upper stage.

It is expected to be launched by 2025, and has a 100 kg payload capacity to a 400 km LEO.

This launcher is slightly more powerful than the Iranian manned suborbital launcher Safir-1D and less powerful than the North Korean suborbital manned launcher Hwasong-15.

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https://archive.is/omwpx/73cf1098cfb4548...94cd62.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100116094...AAGFcs.jpg
1. Micro Sat Launcher is expected to be launched by 2025, and has a 100 kg payload capacity to a 400 km LEO.

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https://archive.fo/fuI2I/cea85a6ff46933c...7fea39.jpg ; http://web.archive.org/web/2019100116124.../34639.jpg
2. Micro Sat Launcher is expected to be launched by 2025, and has a 100 kg payload capacity to a 400 km LEO.

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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


  


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