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Iran's First Astronaut: Alternative Path
#1
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As Iran domestic manned space program has been postponed for many years, there is now another more likely possibility, an alternative path that could allow to see an Iranian astronaut going into space in less than five years.

Quote:Africa's Space Dream


August 23, 2019

WINDHOEK, Aug. 22 -- Students at Namibia's University of Science and Technology (NUST) have called for more investments in science and technology following a visit by Chinese astronauts.

Liu Yang and Chen Dong, who are in Namibia on a five-day visit, had an opportunity to engage in face to face interactions with the NUST students on Thursday.

The interactions focused on awareness in the development of space science and technology as the Chinese duo shared their experience in space through photographs and videos while entertaining various questions posed by the students.

Leuan van Kent, a 24-year-old senior in Engineering Electronics and Telecommunications at NUST, told Xinhua that he was impressed by the Space Talk session, during which Liu Yang, China's first female astronaut in space, revealed that she had wanted to be a bus driver, but ended up being an astronaut.

"The sky is the limit, who knows it might not be long before we have our very own Namibian astronauts explore space," Van Kent said.

According to him, for Namibia to achieve this, the government or industry players need to invest more in education and training, especially at the Namibian Institute of Space Technology (NIST), which is housed at NUST.

The role of NIST is to produce competent graduates that will play leading roles in the field of space technology as well as contribute to the societal improvement of life by the effective application of satellite applications and technology, amongst others.

"We all know it is expensive, but we can start one step at a time. For instance, we currently host the Chinese satellite tracking station in Swakopmund and through that, we can further learn and train locals," he added.

David John, a computer science senior, said the session with the astronauts was an eye-opener.

"I believe Namibia should not be left behind and hopefully one day we can 'tangle with the stars,' when we have our very own home-made astronaut," he added.

Geomatics student Laameni Haininga said she would like to see Namibia also send a female astronaut to space.

"I myself would not mind following in Yang's footsteps as she has inspired me. One never knows maybe one day I will be in her shoes," she added.

The event was attended by Chinese Ambassador to Namibia Zhang Yiming, Namibia's Deputy Minister of Higher Education, Training and Innovation Becky Ndjoze-Ojo and NUST officials.

Currently, the two countries enjoy cooperation in the science and technology field as Namibia hosts the China Telemetry, Tracking and Command Station, which tracks the re-entry of Chinese manned space vehicles.



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1. Chinese astronauts, an inspiration for the African youth.


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2. Chinese astronauts, an inspiration for the African youth.

http://web.archive.org/web/2019082411441...08623.html
http://archive.fo/9LPlm


Commentary

It is obvious that if any African nation wants to see one of its astronauts sent into space, it will not be with the Europeans!

Indeed, these leeches only have abduction and a one way trip to the the nearest slave plantation in the Americas aboard a slave ship to offer!  

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3. Europe: the darkest hours of Africa.

Meanwhile, China as the only trusted and time-proven friend of Africa can surely provide all the trainings, as suggested in the report, and access to the Chinese Tiangong Space Station, along a safe return home, aboard one of its Shenzhou space ship!

With the rise of China and within a decade, under the Pax Sinica, or China Century, access to space will no longer be the sole monopoly of the white Europeans.

Soon, we will see Pakistani, Namibian, Venezuelan, Thai, Philipino, Lao, Cambodian, Bolivian and Nigerian astronauts soaring to the sky and paying courtesy visits to the Tiangong Space Station, one after the other!

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4. Chinese Tiangong Space Station: a space palace for mankind.

The Chinese Space Station's first two modules are already completed, only awaiting to be launched into space by late 2020 and early 2021.

And being even more spacious than the old Russian Mir Space Station!

Chinese Tianhe Vs Soviet MIR

 7:54 PM - 29 Aug 2019

Just a demonstration of proportions. You can clearly see both the equipment (centre) and living compartments (right) are longer. Also the larger volume of the forward multi docking hub.

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5. Chinese Tianhe Vs Soviet MIR space station module.

Iran should ponder wisely, as Pakistan has already started the process of astronaut selection. Two years are required to complete an astronaut training. Therefore now, it is only a question of diplomacy between President Hassan Rouhani and Xi Jinping.

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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


#2
Iran's first astronaut was Anousheh Ansari in 2006.
#3
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(09-15-2019, 07:05 PM)Persian Gulf Wrote: Iran's first astronaut was Anousheh Ansari in 2006.

Stop spreading monarchist/bahai/kurd/wahabi/ziombi's delusion.

Not even in the eyes of the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran!

Quote:I am ready to be the first Iranian in space: Ahmadinejad

TEHRAN, Feb. 4, 2013 (MNA) – Iran's president said on the sidelines of a visit to the exhibition of space achievements and said; “sending living things to space is the result of Iranian efforts and dedication of thousands of Iranian professional scientists.”

Ahmadinejad remembered martyr Tehrani Moghadam and said; “I am ready to be the first human to be sent to space by Iranian scientists,”

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1. President Ahmadinejad ready to be the first Iranian in space!

https://www.mehrnews.com/en/newsdetail.a...ID=1808372


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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


#4
Stop posting photos of Fat Dictator Kim before you accuse me of spreading "wahabi nonsense".
#5
frankly i dont care about iranians going to space if it is not on its own it is meaning less.
#6
Star 
The wording has changed, as Minister of Communications and Information Technology Mohammad Javad Azari Jahromi has stated on 6th October 2019, in a ceremony held on the occasion of World Space Week (October 4-10), that "Iran will send an astronaut into space in the future in cooperation with other countries".

Reference:
http://www.iran-daily.com/News/259773.html ; http://archive.is/nwaAJ
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/150842/Iran...ations-min ; http://archive.fo/IF7SX
https://irannewsdaily.com/2019/10/iran-t...-to-space/ ; http://archive.fo/ezqmt



This could be interpreted as either sending an Iranian astronaut aboard China's Tiangong Space Station, fast as the first module will be orbited in 2020, cheap as it would be totally free of charge, and safe.

Or with North Korea's cooperation aboard the E1 spacecraft, but both nations are still rookies in that field.

In this regard, North Korea has hinted on Monday 7th October 2019, at a possible space launch, in its race for space supremacy:

Quote:Scramble rages for military supremacy in space

France, Iran and many other countries competitively made public their aerospace projects and press on with them in a planned manner.

Experts comment that though the world’s major countries compete in the field of outer space, they have observed the treaty on outer space by and large and have not yet positioned weapons of destruction in outer space. However, the US is triggering a new arms race by extending from the earth to outer space in order to dominate it and compelling other countries to be involved in it, they assert.

Reference:
http://www.pyongyangtimes.com.kp/ ; http://archive.fo/ydKiV
http://web.archive.org/web/2019100617052...?bbs=31621 ; http://archive.fo/oek3Y



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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


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SOHEIL, post: 3707971, member: 135587 Wrote:
Iran's manned space capsule

Note : Official Picture

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Iran has publicly said it plans to send a human into space by 2019. Tal Inbar, head of Israel's Space Research Center of the Fisher Institute for Air and Space Strategic Studies, noted: "Up to now we had not seen an image of what an Iranian manned spacecraft might look like. Now at the 63rd International Astronautical Congress (IAC) in Naples, Iran had posters on display with a manned spacecraft on it".


Here again a new view of the three seaters orbital manned spacecraft first disclosed in 2012, during the 63rd International Astronautical Congress (IAC) in Naples. Initially due to be launched sometimes after 2019.

Seen on the occasion of the 2019 world’s Space Week, during a news conference of Iran’s Space Research Center and Iran’s Space Agency, shortly referred to as ISA.

The three seaters orbital manned spacecraft return module is represented attached to the orbital module (note that it is not a stage adapter as wrongly described by the Fishy Institute).

This only hints at some great progress made in the development of the E1 single seater suborbital manned spacecraft. Keeping in mind that today 8th October 2019, North Korea has disclosed its upcoming future space launch in a KCTV video.  

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1. Iran's three seaters orbital manned spacecraft first disclosed in 2012.

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2. Iran's three seaters orbital manned spacecraft as represented in a 2019 world’s Space Week poster.


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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


#8
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Iranian long period stay in space

India plans to have its own separate space station in the future to allow extended period of stay in space. India will not join the International Space Station (ISS).

Notice that the Iranian orbital spacecraft is fitted with a docking system.

An indigenous space lab would require years to develop.

The U.S. will certainly bar Iran from accessing to the ISS like it did with China.

This means that in the short term, Iran can only dock with the Chinese Space Station.

Quote:China prepares for space station construction

October 17, 2019

China is preparing for the upcoming high-density space missions to construct China's space station, and the Long March-5B carrier rocket, set to launch capsules for the space station, is expected to make its maiden flight in 2020.

China aims to complete the construction of the space station around 2022. Weighing 66 tonnes, the Tiangong space station will be T-shaped with the Tianhe core module at the center and the Wentian and Mengtian experiment capsules on each side.

The station, which will orbit 340 to 450 km above the Earth's surface, could be enlarged to 180 tonnes if required and accommodate three to six astronauts. It is designed to last at least 10 years and could be prolonged through in-orbit maintenance, according to Zhou Jianping.

After the construction of the station is completed, China welcomes overseas astronauts to work together with domestic astronauts aboard China's space station. International spacecraft can also be docked with China's space station if they use a Chinese docking mechanism, Zhou said.

http://en.people.cn/n3/2019/1017/c90000-9623982.html



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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


#9
This sending of an astronaut to space is a must have for Iran..........it should be quickly followed up with a space lab/ station. Just the sheer propaganda value of it would be immense! It would blow away all other achievements big time.
#10
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The prediction made recently is now confirmed. Following France's path, Iran seems to be abandoning for the time being any hope of sending a man into space by its own effort.

And instead of a 'space tourist' aboard the E1 suborbital capsule, Iran will try to send a 'scientist' to conduct real research work on the International Space Station.

This will require to pay Russia for all the costs including the training of the scientist, the return trip to the ISS and the long stay sojourn.

Just like the first French cosmonaut in space, Jean-Loup Chrétien who boarded on 24th June 1982 the Soyuz-T6 spacecraft, that docked with the Salyut-7 space station.

Quote:Iran Working on Sending Scientists to Space

Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:18

Barari said today that the ISA has commenced plans for cooperation with what he called an ‘advanced country’ to send scientist astronauts to space.

“The talks are underway, and we hope to reach an agreement with one of the countries to commence the project.”

Barari declined to name the country with which the ISA is in talks about the project before the talks have been finalized.

“With the cooperation of this country, we are aiming to send a scientist-astronaut instead of a space tourist. Our goal is to participate in international projects; that is, to have an Iranian scientist present in the Earth's orbit or a space station to take part in international research projects,” he added.

“The process of talks must be carried out fully. Once done, we will announce the schedule for the implementation of the project in the near future,” he said.

http://web.archive.org/web/2020010100515...1010000987
http://archive.ph/JVvXw

And indeed, the waiting list of all those who are lining up for a first manned suborbital flight is too long indeed, and requires foremost a green light to receive the go-ahead, which Iran lacks.

To wait for its turn would mean an Iranian indigenous suborbital launch only after 2025 at the earliest!

The waiting list, incomplete as of 1st January 2020:

North Korea
Hwasong-15 manned suborbital launcher (payload capacity of several 100 of kg in LEO)
Unha-9 manned orbital launcher (able to place 3'000 kg into LEO)

Turkey
DeltaV's manned suborbital launcher (payload capacity of several 100 of kg in LEO)
Roketsan's Simsek manned orbital launcher (able to place 1'500 kg into LEO)

Japan
Interstellar Technologies' Zero SLV, as a manned suborbital launcher (payload capacity of several 100 of kg in LEO)

Iran
Safir-1D manned suborbital launcher (payload capacity of under 100 kg in LEO)


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2. U.S. Redstone-Mercury, North Korean Hwasong-15 and Unha-9, Turkish DeltaV's SLV and Roketsan's Simsek, Japanese Interstellar Technologies' Zero, Iranian Safir-1D.



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只要伊朗伊斯兰共和国革命军卫队挖到两千五百米特深,就肯定能对付敌方的入侵威胁,
将把地下军事设施挖到四千米超深,伊朗伊斯兰共和国一定能取得胜利!
  ——伊朗伊斯兰共和国总统马哈茂德·艾哈迈迪内贾德


  


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